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What To Do If You Can't Find 93 Octane?

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I live in the PNW, and surprise, surprise..... there's no 93 Octane to be found anywhere (premium is 92 here) A local performance shop sells race gas /107 octane and suggested putting in a gallon to mix with 92. Is this going to mess with the engine? I need at least 93 if I want to try the drag strip again....
 
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Typical octane boosters will raise octane 1.0-1.5 points, so 92 would become 93 to 93.5
 
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some gas stations even though its not listed at the pump can offer higher octane levels if you request it. for a list of some of the known ones check out Find 93 Octane Gas: Locate Gasoline Stations Selling Premium there is alot of places in PNW on there... if that doesnt work for you can mix in the proper amount of race fuel in to achieve a balance you want, but thats like $15 a gallon. but with that said you will be fine with running 92 the computer should auto tune for it. i however would probaly go with an ethanol free 92 though if it was me. for a list of pure gas locations in the PNW check out Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
Perfect! I was able to find a gas station that sells race gas. Time to take my 5 gallon jug!
 
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Why do you need/want 93? (just curious) and if 92 is offered, I assume you are at a higher altitude, and less octane is required anyway. Is "regular" 86 in your area?
 
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Just make absolutely sure that race gas is completely UNLEADED as you will have major issues if you put leaded gas in your car.



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Thanks! I almost made that mistake yesterday! I was about to fill up the jug with 110, when I asked at the last moment- so just to make sure, this is Unleaded, right? It wasn't, so I had to switch over to 100. Only problem was, I couldn't fill up the jug because it has a safety filter in the opening. So I had to find a jug without any safety garb near the opening.

Why do you need/want 93? (just curious) and if 92 is offered, I assume you are at a higher altitude, and less octane is required anyway. Is "regular" 86 in your area?
Regular around here is 87 (Tacoma, WA). Premium around here is 92. I've heard that 92 doesn't really have the performance capability of 93, and I think it's affecting the quarter mile time.
 
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Regular around here is 87 (Tacoma, WA). Premium around here is 92. I've heard that 92 doesn't really have the performance capability of 93, and I think it's affecting the quarter mile time.
AFAIK 91 is the recommended octane. It is questionable if the factory left any performance on the table to be had by running 92, 93, or higher.

What can happen is the high octane gasoline can become stale. My experience is after 6 months Shell V-Power 91 was stale. Was not fully apparent to me until I drove the vehicle enough that I had to fill up the tank. After filling the tank with fresh Shell V-Power the engine's transformation was remarkable.

But gasoline begins to go stale the moment it leaves the cracking tower. And my info is the higher the octane the faster the staleness progresses.

Thus you probably didn't get 6 month old 92 but it still might have gone a bit stale and maybe enough to account for why you feel the car's performance might be subpar.

Of course you can try a higher octane of gasoline just as others have stressed avoid the leaded variety.
 
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Regular around here is 87 (Tacoma, WA). Premium around here is 92. I've heard that 92 doesn't really have the performance capability of 93, and I think it's affecting the quarter mile time.
The difference in performance capability of a 93 vs 92 octane gasoline is not much.

Yes, an engine’s timing could be advanced slightly to take advantage of the extra octane number in 93 vs 92, but yours should be set to take advantage of up to 91, and that’s it.

93 won’t necessarily be better than 92 for your car if the engine isn’t even taking advantage of the extra octane number in the 92.

All that ignores the whole E10 vs E0 gasoline mixture subject too. Is the 92 gas a E0 and the 93 an E10 blend? If so, I’d choose 92 E0 every time anyway. And so on, and so forth…

Ultimately, if you are getting slower-than-expected ETs at the drag strip in a V8 powered Challenger while running 91 octane with the stock tune, you’re best bet on identifying a culprit is to acquire a handheld tuner and start datalogging the runs.

If lots of KR is observed, run higher octane gasoline. If the KR goes down, keep upping the octane until the KR levels off or disappears.

Otherwise you’re just guessing and possibly wasting money on the more expensive gas when it isn’t needed or cannot be taken advantage of (until real problem is identified and resolved).
 
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He's changing the power window assy for manual trying to get a small advantage...he no doubt wants that small difference...

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He's changing the power window assy for manual trying to get a small advantage...he no doubt wants that small difference...

A Guy
Assy McGee, that old cartoon on Adult Swim back in the day??

I loved that show while it was still running, it made me laugh my ass off every time, pun intended!!

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